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Libertarian Personal Freedom.. by webgoddess Libertarian Personal Freedom.. by webgoddess
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Personal Freedom * Individual Responsibility

I don't know too much about the Libertarians, but what I do know about the party I agree with. I think before the next election I will learn more about them and if there is a libertarian canidate, then that is the way I will vote.

The official Libertarian Party Website-> [link]
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Aa-l-i-n-a Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Muy bien!
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RelativeEquinox Featured By Owner May 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
My views are so muddled now...I used to be a Centro-Conservative with a touch of Green party.

Now I'm an Eco-Capitalist Centro-Conservative Libertarian. bladhkjsdhfjd ....since when does anyone wholeheartedly agree with everythign a single party says anyway, I guess?

I find myself being pushed more and more towards that are of thought, though, soo...into the favs. *click*
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The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Modern Libertarians worry me. I heartily agree with the need to smash or at least remove the state, as it is an oppressive force. The goal of the libertarian is the same as an anarchist ans is as Emma Goldman put it "perfect individual liberty." Most Anti-statist, Anarchist, and Libertarian movements throughout history have been also anti-capitalist for the same reasons their anti-state. capitalism has laborers sign an agreement in which they trade their liberty for a living wage, and in order to maintain a living wage, they have to continually sacrifice their wage, thus does the laborer really have any liberty at all besides the choice of starvation or slavery?
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RelativeEquinox Featured By Owner May 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
*comment was not finished, sorry

I mean, I do realize that they do push for smaller government and such, but most moderate ones don't call for the complete destruction of it. Also, well, while we're on the topic of labor, that's why there's rules in place to keep things fair. Maybe they'll never be perfect and they'll never be able to completely prevent either corporations or laborers from overtaking the other, but I just don't think the answer is to simply seize everything from either.
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The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Capitalism maintains an inherently hierarchical system where those who only have their labor to sell are subject to the whims of the of the capital owner. The existence of these two distinct classes means one person has the ability to limit the liberties of another, and thus antithetical to the ideas of libertarianism since libertarianism's goal is to maximize individual liberty provided one does not infringe upon the liberties of another.

Libertarianism, and anarchism historically both have advocated some system of a classless society, where the laboring class is the capital owning class as well, be it collectively or individually, or some combination of the two does not matter, as long as capital is controlled by those who work it. Communism is described as a classless society, and has historically succeeded in agrarian situations such as Chiapas Mexico, or the kibbutzim in Israel/Palestine both of which exist in today's economy. Anarcho-syndicalism has also seen success as being the largest experiment in worker's self-management in western Europe with Catalonia's industry being run almost entirely by the anarchist trade union the C.N.T. and that region also saw an end to unemployment during global depression no less (1936). Market Socialism is a concept best seen in cooperatives such as Ocean Spray (yes, it's worker owned, and thus socialist, and it functions in a market economy) or the Mondragon Corporation based in Basque Country Spain, and that region has the distinction of having the lowest unemployment rate in the country. Distributism is an economic system where capital is owned by individuals not collectives, but only worked by individuals, and is the economic system officially advocated by the Catholic Church. There is also mutualism, which is sort of a mix between market socialism and distributism.
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RelativeEquinox Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Being in a democratic society automatically entails not having your own ideal set out though, and over time the western Libertarians (at least the US and Canadian ones that I've seen) have turned more and more away from that extreme. While maximizing individual liberties is the very base of what Libertarianism is, and thus someone who identifies as one *can* want such levels, most are willing to accept that they want a capitalistic society for the flexibility it offers, opportunity for wealth, etc etc- I'm not going to enter into an argument about socio-economic ideals. Most do, however, want limits placed on large employer power just as they want limits on the government, thus they can want small government but small business as well. Of course, again, not all share that view, but still.

What I guess I'm trying to say is that, in my country at least, the most popular form has moderated with different ideals it coexisted with, and it's that form that you'll usually find being supported on the internet.
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The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
There are literally tens of thousands of radical left wing libertarians and anarchists in the united states, I know, because I'm one of them, and I know a lot of them. The vast majority of the membership of the group I stared, #Socialist-Anarchists, are from the united states, and we rank over 400. There is also a growing anarchist presence in the communist party of Deviant art. There are plenty of classic libertarians (as opposed to modern right wing contradictions). Libertarian is a french word originally coined to describe anarcho-communists by anarcho-communists.

Hierarchy is contradictory to libertarian ideals, so to promote any system that is inherently hierarchical means one isn't a libertarian. A libertarian only in name perhaps. Most modern right-wing "libertarians" don't advocate democratizing the system, nor do they generally even oppose a republic system, and support capitalism despite being a hierarchical structure. in reality, all these "libertarians" really support is Laissez-faire capitalism. Ron Paul in particular is only libertarian in name. His opposition to the Civil Rights act of 1964 proves it, as he opposed it on the basis that it infringed on the rights of businesses to infringe the rights of individuals. This shows that Ron Paul, does not care about rights, he only cares about capitalist interests. He claims that the market would force businesses to be more inclusive, as if integration wasn't an option for them in the past century and the market clearly let them continue the racist policy.

What I'm saying, is you can't be a capitalist and a libertarian at the same time. You can support the market, as this is a mechanism that exists in several non-hierarchical economic systems such as mutualism and cooperative economics.
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RelativeEquinox Featured By Owner May 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Since when was Libertarianism against the establishment as a whole? Also, most American Libertarians I've seen were pretty pro-Capitalist.
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OmiAna117280 Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2010
Featured here: [link]
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chesney Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2010
And BAM! We have the reason so many are content to give up their freedoms. Too much work and personal responsibility to preserve them.

As a libertarian, I wholeheartedly embrace and welcome those who are content to exchange their freedoms for being taken care of. However, as a libertarian, I wholeheartedly express my own desire to not be forced to do the same.
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